Tucker Carlson made a notable appearance on The Megyn Kelly Show this past Tuesday, where he and Kelly, both prominent voices in conservative commentary, expressed a unified stance against fellow right-wing commentators participating in California Governor Gavin Newsoms recently launched podcast. The podcast, titled This Is Gavin Newsom, has stirred considerable debate among political circles since its inception earlier this year.

During the discussion, Kelly articulated her concerns, stating, Ive said Im against conservatives going on his podcast because I think its helping him train for 2028, and I dont think we should help him. Her comments reflect a broader skepticism within conservative ranks regarding Newsoms intentions and the potential benefits of his outreach efforts.

Carlson, who has personal ties to Newsom and occasionally communicates with him, echoed Kelly's sentiments. He shared that he had initially accepted an invitation to appear on the podcast but later reconsidered his decision. I have been bothering him for years, You should come on my show, Carlson recounted, explaining how he originally saw the potential for a meaningful debate about Californias policies. However, after observing a slew of conservative figures appearing on the podcast, he became disillusioned. I realized and Im not attacking them at all I almost did, but then I realized, oh, wait a second, the point of this is not to have a real conversation or to answer questions. The point of this is to rehabilitate, he stated, suggesting that the podcast serves as a platform for Newsom to enhance his public image rather than engage in substantive political discourse.

Taking a pointed jab at Newsoms character, Carlson described him as legit smart but fundamentally lacking depth, claiming there is nothing at all at the core other than misery. He characterized the governor as another deeply, deeply unhappy person who seems to externalize his struggles. Theres nothing at the center, and so everything is about the public display, Carlson elaborated. He painted a portrait of Newsom as a truly wounded, screwed up person on a very deep level who, despite these issues, possesses a talent for political rhetoric that could serve him well in his career.

The podcast has faced criticism before, with conservative media personality Charlie Kirk, co-founder of Turning Point USA, previously warning on The Megyn Kelly Show that the project could potentially undermine Newsom's political prospects. In response, Newsom defended his podcast initiative, clarifying that his aim is not to go viral or to own the conservatives through debate victories. Instead, he stated that the podcast seeks to delve into Republican perspectives and understand the factors contributing to their increasing resonance with voters as the 2024 election approaches.

The full segment featuring Carlsons appearance on Kellys show provides further insights into this contentious issue, and viewers can watch it in the video above. As the political landscape continues to evolve, the implications of Newsoms podcast and the responses it evokes from conservative commentators will undoubtedly remain a topic of discussion.